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What kind of gasoline is better to fill in a VAZ 2114. Manufacturer's recommendations
Deciding what gasoline to fill the VAZ 2114 with
Many motorists, especially those buying a car for the first time, are faced with a completely logical question - which gasoline is better for the VAZ 2114?
It does not arise by chance, because very often the information received by the car enthusiast contradicts each other. So, the passport of this model clearly states 95 gasoline, but many drivers and even employees of car dealerships and auto repair shops strongly recommend driving 92 gasoline. What to do in this situation?
First, let's turn to the opinion of many experts - when traveling within the city (that is, when driving with frequent stops and at lower speeds), it is better to use 92 gasoline, and when driving on the highway - 95. This recommendation is caused by the peculiarities of engine operation in different modes. For the same reason, it is recommended to refuel 92 in the cold season, and 95 in the warm season.
By following such recommendations, you can be sure of optimal fuel consumption and smoother operation of the car. True, some may object - what to do if there is no desire to change fuel when leaving the city on the highway or vice versa? Shouldn't you pour different fuels into one tank?
Yes, pouring gasoline of different brands into the tank at the same time is highly not recommended. For this reason, many motorists still choose one type of fuel. But which one exactly is up to everyone to decide for themselves.
The fact is that significant differences in gasoline brands are a thing of the past - previously, gasoline was produced using special additives that could increase the octane number (the so-called leaded gasoline), and running cars on the “wrong” gasoline could cause them to wear out quickly. Currently, such fuel is prohibited and is not used, so you can refuel a car with both 92 and 95 gasoline.
The real quality of gasoline (sometimes significantly different from gas station to gas station) is much more important than the octane number indicated in its name.
Advice from motorists
Often, car owners try to listen to the advice of other drivers, including on the issue of how to refuel a VAZ 2114. True, the advice here is radically different - one half drives a 92 and praises it, the other is in favor of a 95, because that’s what’s written in the passport and this is right".
In such a situation, it is worth recalling the above phrase once again - a difference of 3 octane units is quite insignificant and is poorly perceived by both the car and its driver (in the latter case, most opinions like “better are subjective”). An objective assessment here could be fuel consumption or the degree of wear of some elements, but they are almost the same (of course, there is a difference, but it is very small).
It is for this reason that we can say with confidence that it does not matter what kind of gasoline is poured into the VAZ 2114 - 92nd or 95th, what is much more important is not its octane number, but its quality.
A few octane units is a practically insignificant difference, making 95 and 92 gasoline interchangeable, not only when refueling domestic cars, but also when refueling many foreign cars.
Good gasoline - from a good gas station
It is probably no secret that many gas stations supply motorists with low-quality gasoline - diluted, with a low octane number, or simply lost in quality due to improper storage and transportation (when gasoline is poured into containers that have not been cleaned after other petroleum products). Situations like this are not uncommon these days and are common throughout the country.
Sometimes, even at two neighboring gas stations, the quality of gasoline of the same brand can be radically different. This is what every motorist should pay attention to - having visited several gas stations in your place of residence, and having found the best one, you should use only its services (of course, only if the quality of gasoline at this gas station does not drop sharply).
To once again prove the importance of choosing the right gas station, and not the right brand of fuel, we can give examples of octane number measurements at different gas stations: in less than half of the gas stations studied, 95th gasoline turned out to be really 95th. With 92, the situation is a little better, but not much (in general, according to statistics, the more expensive gasoline is, the more often it is counterfeited/diluted).
Where does the belt slip and why?
Note! The belt can slip either towards the engine or in the opposite direction from it.
This happens regardless of how exactly it was installed in the middle of the gear, since the reason for this is not only the belt itself, but also the elements and mechanisms accompanying its operation. In order to solve this problem, you need to use the methods described below.
Timing belt
In modern times, in the automotive spare parts market, facts of counterfeits and low-quality products are becoming more and more common.
The top is the original timing belt and the bottom is a fake.
Specifically touching on the issue with the timing belt, we can talk about its uneven structure, increased elasticity (the ability to stretch excessively - approx.), as well as the presence of significant differences between the two edges (distortion - approx.).
The degree of straightness of the newly installed belt can only be determined on the mounted mechanism.
And, if even minor deviations are observed after starting the engine, then the reason is in the belt.
Belt is on and tight
water pump
The timing belt can slip due to play in the pump (pump - approx.). It is very easy to determine its presence; you just need to grab the working surface of the gear with your hand, and if there is even the slightest play, the unit must be changed. In this case, read the material: “choosing a reliable pump for the VAZ-2114”
Leaks on the cylinder block from the timing side indicate that the pump has failed
Tension roller
The next element that needs to be diagnosed when the timing belt is slipping is the tension roller.
Although it may seem like a simple part, deviation from its performance specifications can significantly affect the overall correct operation of the part. In simple terms, a curved roller will not be able to provide the belt with linear movement , wearing out and moving it to the side.
The diagram is clear and understandable.
Another reason for discussions on popular forums about the belt moving to the side is the installation of rollers of different types, because the analogue has a different, slightly modified design.
The difference between the rollers
The difference between these two spare parts is that the old side has a different shape, made of metal, while the new one is made of plastic.
Therefore, as the theory shows, a spare part made of plastic causes much less friction than its metal counterpart.
Deciding what gasoline to fill the VAZ 2114 with
Many motorists, especially those buying a car for the first time, are faced with a completely logical question - which gasoline is better for the VAZ 2114?
It does not arise by chance, because very often the information received by the car enthusiast contradicts each other. So, the passport of this model clearly states 95 gasoline, but many drivers and even employees of car dealerships and auto repair shops strongly recommend driving 92 gasoline. What to do in this situation?
First, let's turn to the opinion of many experts - when traveling within the city (that is, when driving with frequent stops and at lower speeds), it is better to use 92 gasoline, and when driving on the highway - 95. This recommendation is caused by the peculiarities of engine operation in different modes. For the same reason, it is recommended to refuel 92 in the cold season, and 95 in the warm season.
By following such recommendations, you can be sure of optimal fuel consumption and smoother operation of the car. True, some may object - what to do if there is no desire to change fuel when leaving the city on the highway or vice versa? Shouldn't you pour different fuels into one tank?
Yes, pouring gasoline of different brands into the tank at the same time is highly not recommended. For this reason, many motorists still choose one type of fuel. But which one exactly is up to everyone to decide for themselves.
The fact is that significant differences in gasoline brands are a thing of the past - previously, gasoline was produced using special additives that could increase the octane number (the so-called leaded gasoline), and running cars on the “wrong” gasoline could cause them to wear out quickly. Currently, such fuel is prohibited and is not used, so you can refuel a car with both 92 and 95 gasoline.
The real quality of gasoline (sometimes significantly different from gas station to gas station) is much more important than the octane number indicated in its name.
Answers (3)
You should fill in the gasoline that the manufacturer prescribes; usually such information is indicated on the gas tank flap, and always in the maintenance and operation book.
As for the VAZ 2114, the most important thing is that the gasoline is of high quality, and it doesn’t matter whether it has an octane rating of 92 or 95.
For example, new Volkswagens, Hondas, and Skodas use 92, although the factory recommends using AI-95-98.
“What are our girls made of?”
> In nature, we still don’t make 95 gasoline! - “nature” has been producing oil :)) and gas for millions of years. I haven’t heard about gasoline or kerosene deposits yet! :))))
And if we take into account the fact that gasoline 95 is made from 92 by adding anti-depletion additives, and 92 from 80, and 80 from diesel fuel - and I thought that gasoline and diesel fuel are different fractions :) What are they made from fuel oil? If it’s a solarium, then you patent the method - you’ll become richer than Chubais, otherwise the industry of the tormentor doesn’t know what to do with heavy fractions :))))
then it’s better not to worry and ride what you come across. - It’s better not to talk about what you don’t know, Monsieur Mendeleev.
> My 99 has already traveled 120 thousand km on 92 and no problems. And I fill my Nissan with the same thing, as soon as I fill it with 95, the spark plugs fly after 5 thousand km! - What, they fly out of the cylinder head, break through the hood and fly away? My 50 thousand go to 95 :)))
Advice from motorists
Often, car owners try to listen to the advice of other drivers, including on the issue of how to refuel a VAZ 2114. True, the advice here is radically different - one half drives a 92 and praises it, the other is in favor of a 95, because that’s what’s written in the passport and this is right".
In such a situation, it is worth recalling the above phrase once again - a difference of 3 octane units is quite insignificant and is poorly perceived by both the car and its driver (in the latter case, most opinions like “better are subjective”). An objective assessment here could be fuel consumption or the degree of wear of some elements, but they are almost the same (of course, there is a difference, but it is very small).
It is for this reason that we can say with confidence that it does not matter what kind of gasoline is poured into the VAZ 2114 - 92nd or 95th, what is much more important is not its octane number, but its quality.
A few octane units is a practically insignificant difference, making 95 and 92 gasoline interchangeable, not only when refueling domestic cars, but also when refueling many foreign cars.
Engine VAZ 21114, 1.6 l
The 2111 engine available in the AvtoVAZ manufacturer’s line did not meet the Euro-3 environmental standards existing at that time. In general, the design satisfied the management of the manufacturer’s plant in terms of cost, and the users in terms of technical characteristics. Factory tuning made it possible to obtain a modification of the 21114 engine, different configurations of which comply with Euro-2, Euro-3 and Euro-4 standards.
Good gasoline - from a good gas station
It is probably no secret that many gas stations supply motorists with low-quality gasoline - diluted, with a low octane number, or simply lost in quality due to improper storage and transportation (when gasoline is poured into containers that have not been cleaned after other petroleum products). Situations like this are not uncommon these days and are common throughout the country.
Sometimes, even at two neighboring gas stations, the quality of gasoline of the same brand can be radically different. This is what every motorist should pay attention to - having visited several gas stations in your place of residence, and having found the best one, you should use only its services (of course, only if the quality of gasoline at this gas station does not drop sharply).
To once again prove the importance of choosing the right gas station, and not the right brand of fuel, we can give examples of octane number measurements at different gas stations: in less than half of the gas stations studied, 95th gasoline turned out to be really 95th. With 92, the situation is a little better, but not much (in general, according to statistics, the more expensive gasoline is, the more often it is counterfeited/diluted).
That is why it is much more important to choose a reliable fuel supply company and use only its services than to believe the numbers written on any random gas pump.
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Comments 23
At least read the documentation for the car, it’s not in vain that they write it... For all modifications of the engine for 2114 from the factory (and this is the beginning of the 2000s) they write to pour 95!
And you wonder why these engines are so unreliable and how it starts to run at 95... Maybe you should immediately use what the manufacturers recommend?
Engine 2111 compression ratio - 10.8
here's some entertainment from AvtoTAZ about compression www.drive2.ru/l/492840695061545704/
For compression ratios up to 10.5 and below, the octane number of gasoline is AI - 92 (we do not take into account TURBO engine options). From the 10.5 to 12 mark - fill in fuel not lower than AI - 95!
If the compression ratio is 12 or higher, then it is recommended to fill in at least AI - 98
Of course, there are also very rare gasolines, such as AI-102 and AI-109, for which the compression ratio is 14 and 16, respectively.
I changed the gas station, consumption dropped by 1.5 liters, and the ride became faster. As I poured 92, I poured it
My friend, fill it with at least 100. This will not make a Russian bucket a Mercedes. It’s just an asshole, it’ll take you from a to b and that’s okay. But I don’t see any point in bothering with this.
With such an attitude towards the car, it’s strange that it still drives you around... I never understood such an “expression” for a car that serves you faithfully every day... you probably treat people the same way...
Let's not get personal. Did you understand what you wrote? If I fill it with 92, does that mean I have a bad attitude towards the car? Search your stupid head before you write something like this here.
Fifth, in any case, it’s better that more than one test was carried out right up to bench tests. And the difference on the tank of 100 rubles is not critical at all
at different gas stations it’s different - you can get so that 95 is worse than 92
at our gas stations in the 92nd octane is 87 and in the 95th it is 84. Therefore, I pour 92nd, alternating with the 95th. But in the 98th at (Rosneft) the octane is 100. I tried to fill 500 rubles of the 92nd + 500 rubles of the 98th. I didn't feel any difference at all.
Gazprom doesn't top up forever.
Liu is 95, my father was 95 in his nine. I traveled 350 thousand without capital. Therefore, on the advice of my father, I poured 95. He always filled the oil with ESSA. Now there is no such thing, I use my mobile phone
Source: www.drive2.ru
Summarize
And so, taking into account the above, we can say with complete confidence that it makes no difference what kind of gasoline to fill the VAZ 2114 with - 95 or 92. After all, both in terms of fuel consumption and the effect on the wear of machine parts, both of these brands perform almost identically.
If it is possible to actually fill the car with 95 (and this is proven by measurements, and not by the name of gasoline at the gas station), then it is better to fill it in the summer or when driving outside the city. And 92nd, in turn, should be filled in in winter or during city trips.
Reasons for high consumption
The VAZ 2114 is economical, but it happens that the car’s appetite increases sharply. The reasons for high fuel consumption lie in possible malfunctions:
- Failure of the lambda probe is usually due to low-quality gasoline or poor valve adjustment.
- A faulty speed sensor leads to a drop in traction, floating idle speed, and poor performance of the speedometer.
- Phase distribution sensor adjustment failure.
- Clogged injectors can be felt during dynamic acceleration.
- Problems with the fuel pump.
Other reasons for excessive consumption of gasoline include an aggressive driving style with frequent acceleration and braking at speeds above 120 km/h.
It is necessary to undergo regular maintenance, measure engine compression, and change spark plugs in a timely manner.
Low tire pressure and untimely replacement of tires for winter and summer lead to increased fuel consumption. Particular attention is paid to the quality of gasoline, since this not only increases consumption, but also leads to engine wear, clogging of the fuel supply system and expensive repairs.
Gasoline A-95 or A-92? what to pour into a VAZ 2114, 2006, mileage 170 thousand | Topic author: Alena
Lyudmila The issue of choosing fuel in Russia appeared almost simultaneously with the advent of cars in our country. “What to refuel with?” , - this is the question most motorists ask themselves. Someone boldly pours 92 instead of 95. Some people, on the contrary, fill their car with high-octane fuel, hoping for an increase in power. Some even add additives to cheap gasoline themselves. What are the risks of experiments with gasoline and the engines of our cars?
Myth 1. AI-92 gasoline is actually better than AI-95. It contains no additives harmful to the engine.
Increasing the octane number by adding additives is practiced by many fuel companies. It's cheaper that way. Therefore, often AI-95 and AI-98 are made from AI-92, if not from 80 at all. Hence it is logical that the 92nd is cleaner. Technical expert of the BLOCK group of companies Nikolai Zavozin believes that pure gasoline is not produced in Russia at all: “Both pure 95 and 92 gasoline are not produced in our country; the octane number is increased with additives. In the case of 95 there are more additives.”
Independent expert Dmitry Shevtsov believes that “not-too-honest traders of 95th gasoline get it by simply adding octane-increasing additives Ksenia to 92nd gasoline. But you won’t get a normal 95 with this kind of bullshit.” But the purity of gasoline is not the main thing.
Myth 2. Is it possible to refuel cars with 92 instead of the required 95?
Gasoline purity and cost are deciding factors for many. However, it is worth noting that they are not the main ones. The most important indicator was and remains the octane number. You can fill AI-92 instead of 95 gasoline and the engine will “eat it up,” but the results may not be so economical and useful. Firstly, due to the lower octane number, the engine will consume more fuel. Secondly, the combustion process of the fuel mixture is disrupted. Gasoline burns with the speed of an explosion, and the speed of propagation of the flame front increases to 1500-2000 m/s. The waves begin to beat repeatedly against the walls of the combustion chamber. This gives rise to a characteristic metallic sound. The reflected shock waves cause vibration of engine parts, resulting in significantly increased wear. The exhaust gases become dark, sometimes black. This process is called detonation.
Many modern cars are equipped with engine knock prevention systems. Due to their operation, engine power decreases.
What kind of gasoline the engine is designed for is often indicated on the back of the gas tank cap. There are cars whose engines are adapted to work with different types of gasoline. In this case, gasoline cocktails are quite safe.
Myth 3. Some car owners mix different types of gasoline, for example, AI-92 and AI-95. Drivers explain these actions simply: this way the car goes faster, refueling is cheaper, and the engine is only better. How true is this?
The increase in dynamics, if there is one at all, is not very significant. When high-octane gasoline is burned in an engine with a low compression ratio, the combustion temperature increases. This often leads to burnt out exhaust valves. So, a penny saved in this case may not save a ruble.
“The higher the octane number of the fuel, the slower it burns. As a rule, on modern cars the ignition system is able to adapt to any fuel, but lower octane fuel naturally reduces engine power and increases consumption,” Nikolai Zavozin assured Finamauto.
From all that has been written, only one conclusion can be drawn: “Cars are best fueled with the fuel for which its engine is designed.”
Tamara diesel is just right.
Margarita lei 92, in Russia we have 95, there’s no such thing!! ! and if there is, it is waste.
Vyacheslav 95 and period!
Zoya 92 in 95 additives and runoff shit that carbon deposits will kill us all in Russia
Mikhail, if you want speakers and lower consumption, lei 95.
Stanislav Which one did you drive?
Alina Will not snatch your car from 92.
Maria aviation fuel
Diana lei 92. From 95, carbon deposits may appear on the spark plugs from the manganese in the additives. 92 is also cheaper. although if you refuel in Finland, then lei 95
Yuri I have been pouring 95 since new since 2003, already 290,000 passed, no complaints about the capital, didn’t do everything ok
Vasily, if the gas station is good and tested, then you can do 92
Engine VAZ 21114-100026080. Characteristics of the VAZ 21114 engine.
The engine is four-stroke, with distributed fuel injection, in-line, with an overhead camshaft. The engine cooling system is liquid, closed type, with forced circulation of liquid. The engine has a combined lubrication system: pressure and splash.
Number of cylinders: | 4 |
Cylinder displacement, l: | 1,596 |
Compression ratio: | 9,6 |
Rated engine power at a crankshaft speed of 5200 rpm: | 60 kW.-(81.6 hp) |
Cylinder diameter, mm: | 82 |
Piston stroke, mm: | 75,6 |
Number of valves: | 8 |
Minimum crankshaft speed, rpm: | 800-850 |
Maximum torque at 3000 rpm, N*m: | 125 |
Cylinder operating order: | 1-3-4-2 |
Octane number of gasoline: | 95(unleaded) |
Fuel supply system: | Electronically controlled distributed injection. |
Spark plug: | A17DVRM, BPR6ES(NGK) |
Weight, kg: | 112,0 |
ICE VAZ 21114–00 (60 or 90) – Euro 2;
ICE VAZ 21114–20 (50 or 62) – Euro 3;
ICE VAZ 21114-70 (72) – Euro 4.
Engine Features.
The VAZ 21114 engine can be used for installation on VAZ Lada Kalina, VAZ 2108, 21083, 2109, 21093, 21099, 2113, 2114, 2115, 2110, 2111, 2112 and their modifications.
The VAZ 21114 engine is a modified version of the 2111 engine. The purpose of the modification was to increase the volume of the internal combustion engine to 1600 cm3 (2111 - 1500 cm3) and increase environmental performance to the requirements of European standards. There are several configuration options. Engine 21114, depending on the configuration, can meet the environmental requirements of Euro 2, Euro 3, or Euro 4. Motors equipped with VAZ 21114–00 (60 or 90) – Euro 2; VAZ 21114–20(50 or 62) – Euro 3; VAZ 21114-70(72) – Euro 4.
It should be noted that the 21114 engine does not differ from the 11183 model in terms of the design of the main components: block, cylinder head, camshaft, valve mechanisms and crank mechanism.
A new cylinder block 21114-1002011-10 was developed. Structurally, it differs from the 2110 cylinder block only in height (see “Cylinder block”). To increase the volume, it was necessary to increase the height of the block by 2.3 mm. (height from the axis of the crankshaft to the upper surface of the block - 197.1 mm). The mounting holes for attaching the block head are made with M12 x 1.25 mm thread. The nominal diameter of the cylinders is 82 mm.
Crankshaft 11183 -1005016 installed. In terms of seats, it corresponds to the crankshaft 2112. This shaft has a crank radius increased by 2.3 mm, compared to the 2112 shaft, this provides a piston stroke of 75.6 mm. The shaft is marked: the model “11183” is indicated on the counterweight.
The flywheel and crankshaft pulley are used from the VAZ 2110.
Attention!
The engine uses a connecting rod and piston group 2110.
The cylinder head received the index “11180”. The head has an enlarged combustion chamber (81mm x 50mm).
The VAZ-21114 engine uses phased injection. This distinguishes it from the VAZ-2111 internal combustion engine with pairwise parallel fuel injection. Therefore, on such engines a camshaft with index 2111 is installed. In this modification, at the end of the shaft, there is a pin for monitoring the position of the shaft with a phase sensor. The camshaft is driven by a toothed belt 2108-1006040-10.
The camshaft pulley 11183-1006020 differs from the VAZ-2111 pulley. On the installed pulley, the mark for setting the valve timing is shifted by two degrees relative to the mark of pulley 2111.
The choice of a poly-V belt for driving a generator and other attachments is determined according to the presence of the same design features as on the VAZ 2111 engine.
The VAZ 21114 engine receiver is made of plastic and differs in shape from the model used on the VAZ 2111 engine.
Changes have been made to the engine fuel system. There is no return fuel line. An injector ramp model 1118-1144010 was installed.
Install injectors “SIEMENS” VAZ20734 (yellow) or “BOSCH” 0280 158 022.
On the engine, the exhaust pipe of the muffler is combined with the catalytic converter (catalyst collector).
The cooling system has a new thermostat mod. 1118-1306010.
Generator 9402.3701 (80 A) is used.
The VAZ-21114 engine uses a four-terminal ignition coil, instead of the ignition module used on the VAZ-2111 model.
The electronic engine control system is carried out by the M7.9.7 controller. or "January" 7.2.
What does it mean that the 21114 engine specifies clutch 18?
The 11183 engine has a 2108 clutch, and the 21114 engine has a 2112 clutch.
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