Grant generator belt marking with air conditioning

Technical regulations Lada Granta

The alternator belt is located under the alternator itself

If you rely on the manufacturer’s technical regulations, then the belt should be checked at least once every 15,000 km. And every thirty thousand kilometers, this belt needs to be replaced.

That is, it turns out to be a cycle with an interval of fifteen thousand kilometers, in which the alternator belt is alternately checked and replaced.

And, given that the tensioner, as such, is not used, the belt is focused solely on one-time stretching during installation.

There are options for reusing the belt, but this practice is highly discouraged.

We check the condition of the alternator belt ourselves

To make sure that the belt is in good condition, you need to perform simple steps. Initially, fifth gear is engaged. On it, leaning on the front bumper, we try to push the car back. At the same time, we are trying to conduct a visual inspection of the belt along its entire length.

All the grooves have been cut off, the belt is on the verge of breaking

There, according to the general rule, there should be no cracks, even the smallest ones, as well as ruptures and peelings that occur due to long-term use of rubber products.

This belt is no longer any good.

If such problems are found, the belt must be replaced. The timing belt is checked in the same way.

It is also a good idea to check the external condition of the generator itself, since its quality raises questions. Don't forget to inspect the generator roller.

The belt is already bad, but the generator pulley is still good

Alternator belt replacement process

To carry out the replacement work, we will need the alternator belt itself, which can be purchased from official dealer representatives at a price of approximately 800 rubles.

Standard article number for alternator belt: 1118-1041020-07

• The length of this belt is 823 millimeters.
• You can find it in the catalog by name or by your own unique number 1118-1041020-07.
• The marking on the box will indicate the index 6РК 823.

In addition, prepare in advance a sufficiently long screwdriver, as well as a “13” key. You may also need a knife to remove the old belt.

To begin with, we remove the old belt, or what is left of it. As we have already said, this needs to be done every thirty thousand kilometers, even if the condition of the belt appears to be completely satisfactory. The belt can be removed with a simple knife.

We remove the belt by simply cutting it off, most conveniently with a stationery knife

After this, all that remains is to take care of tightening the lower bolt and the nut of the upper generator mounting bolt. This will be enough to set everything in place.

Alternative options

Of course, many car enthusiasts are well aware of the consequences of not having a belt tensioner. The fact is that the belt, quite often, is overtightened, which leads to too rapid wear of the generator bearing. You can recognize this problem by a characteristic sound reminiscent of a howl. This design flaw can be eliminated by installing a generator belt tensioner. The most common option is to install a tensioner from the Lada Kalina.

Installing the alternator belt tensioner

The reason for abandoning the tensioner is simple. The manufacturer tried to save additional money by making the car one of the most affordable in the world. And this is typical only for the cheapest trim levels (standard and norm), which are supplied with eight-valve power units.

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Marking of the drive belt for auxiliary units 6РК 995 (six-V-ribbed, length - 995 mm).
Marking of the drive belt for auxiliary units 6РК 995 (six-V-ribbed, length - 995 mm). In order to improve visual control, remove the plastic engine casing. To check the condition of the belt, engage fifth gear in a manual transmission, push the car (or rotate the suspended wheel) and inspect the belt along its entire length. On a car with an automatic transmission, remove the right mudguard of the engine compartment and, by rotating the crankshaft by the bolt of the auxiliary drive pulley, check the condition of the belt.

With any of the gearboxes, the following method is also possible: apply chalk marks to sections of the belt and, turning on the starter for short periods of time, turn the crankshaft at small angles. We inspect the belt along its entire length, checking the areas covered by the marks.

The belt should not have cracks, tears or separation of rubber from the fabric base. A defective belt must be replaced. To do this, from the engine compartment side...

conclusions

This technical “mistake” did not happen by accident. The fact is that the Lada Granta was developed with a low retail price in mind. And, given the depreciation of the ruble, this car managed to enter the top ten cheapest cars in the world. At the same time, the equipment of the Lada Grant is much higher than that of its competitors on the list.

And some problems, like the alternator belt tensioner, can be solved yourself. Only consider warranty issues that may be violated during installation.

Despite the external similarity of the Lada Granta models with 8 and 16 valves, the method of replacing the alternator belt is different. 8-valve modifications: “Norma”, “Standard” are not equipped with an air conditioning system. The gas distribution design does not have a mechanical belt tensioner.

The Lada Granta “Lux” version with a 16-valve mechanism and pre-installed air conditioning has a built-in drive belt tensioner.

In order to provide methodological assistance to inexperienced Lada Granta owners, we will consider two ways to replace the alternator belt.

Replacing the alternator belt on the Lada Grant 8 valve

1. We place the car on a flat platform (platform) and open the hood.

We begin work after the engine has cooled down, the temperature is safe, which eliminates burns and injuries.

1. For convenience, we remove the expansion tank of the cooling system and move it to the side.
2. Using a key set to “13” we release the upper and lower fastenings of the generator, but do not twist the nuts.
3. Move the generator housing forward towards the wall of the cylinder block until it stops.
4. We reset the old RPM.

Removing the old belt

1. We carry out troubleshooting of the generator splines and crankshaft shaft. If there are no comments or deformations of the grooves, we install a new RPM.
2. Using a pry bar, move the body to its original position, screw in the nut of the lower and upper fastenings.
3. We complete the assembly.

We fix the nuts 1 - lower, 2 - upper

Replacing the alternator belt without tensioner on the Lada Grant is completed.

Setting the exact tension of the RPM at home is quite difficult, because... This requires special equipment. Use a regular tester (multimeter), every second motorist has the device.

We set the tension in the following way:

1. After putting on the belt, start the engine.
2. We put two terminals of the multimeter on the battery.
3. We look at the voltage at the “output”, its value should be close to 14.00 V. If it is less, then we increase the tension, if it is more, we release it.

Signs of generator malfunction, ways to eliminate them

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Replacing the alternator belt on a Lada Granta 16 valves (Lada Granta with air conditioning)

1. Jack up the right side of the car and remove the wheel.
2. Unscrew the five screws in the wheel arch and remove the lower part of the “protection”. This is necessary to ensure unobstructed access to the engine mount; it must be removed.
3. Unscrew the 8 bolts around the perimeter of the oil pan protection and remove it.

Mounting points for the mudguard and fender liner: 1 — screw with a Torx T-27 key for general fastening of the mudguard and fender liner to the wheel arch; 2 — two Torx T-20 screws for general fastening of the mudguard and fender liner to the wheel arch and fender; 3 - Torx T-20 key screw for fastening the fender liner to the wing; 4 — four self-tapping screws “8” for fastening the fender liner to the wheel arch; 5 - four Torx T-20 screws for fastening the fender liner to the front bumper.

1. We install a wooden block in the center of the oil pan and lower the car onto the block.
2. We unscrew the engine mount; it is secured with two bolts and one nut (at “17”).

Signs of wear on the RPM

Before you start replacing the RPM, conduct your own diagnostics and evaluate the actual condition of the parts and mechanisms. Perhaps the cause of the malfunction is in another unit adjacent to the generator.

1. We open the hood, the engine must cool down so as not to damage the skin of the hand and fingers.
2. We put the gear in neutral and turn the alternator belt. Rotation occurs quite easily, by hand, without special equipment.
3. We inspect each area one by one.

Signs of wear on the RPM

The following will indicate the need to replace the RPM:

• fraying, side abrasions;
• peeling of rubber, thread fiber;
• other mechanical damage;
• teeth tears;
• the presence of oily traces and streaks on the surface of the belt.

If there are no comments on the RPM, we proceed to inspect the tensioner roller. Often the reason for the appearance of third-party noise is precisely this, worn-out roller bearings. We loosen the structure with our hands and check that it is working properly.

If the belt breaks on the way, it is allowed to travel on the battery's reserve energy, but not more than one hour. In practice, experts recommend no more than half an hour of free movement.

Signs that replacement is needed

When conducting an inspection, we must pay attention to the presence of the following signs:

Some stripes on the belt are already worn out

• abrasions;
• cracks;
• rubber lags behind the base;
• ruptures.

If there is any of them, the belt needs to be changed.

Review of manufacturer prices for Lada Granta alternator belt

Belt technical parameters:

• Length: 823 mm.
• Thickness: 3.0 mm.
• Material: ethylene propylene rubber.
• number of ribs: 6.

Addresses of companies providing services for replacing RPMs

How to choose an alternator belt for the Lada Granta

• Wedge-shaped: the shape of the teeth is wedge-shaped, trapezoidal in outline. The strap is designed to transfer increased force between two nearby shafts. The wedge shape is not designed for reverse bending. That is, it is prohibited to install it on the Lux model.
• Poly-V-ribbed is a universal type: its shape resembles several belts glued together.
• Toothed: There are transverse grooves on the inside. This type of RPM is designed to transmit the maximum number of rotation and traction force. Installed on the Lada Granta to ensure the operation of the gas distribution mechanism.

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Basic faults

Failures associated with the failure of the Granta generator lead to discharge or, conversely, overcharging of the battery and its boiling. In both cases, this will make further operation of the car impossible. If the belt is overtightened, problems with high bearing wear will soon arise. If the belt tension is insufficient, slipping will occur and the battery will receive too little charge.

Normally, a working generator produces 14.5 V; exceeding this value is most often due to a breakdown of the voltage regulator. Without urgent replacement of the element, constant recharging of the battery will lead to shedding of lead plates and battery malfunction. If the unit does not produce the required voltage, and it is below 13 V, then the problem may not only be with the regulator, but also with the fact that the brushes are worn out, the diode bridge or windings are damaged.

The table shows the main faults. Mechanical and other damage is also possible.

Replacing the alternator belt on Granta (Video)

Hi all. The time has come to replace the alternator belt and then away we go. It would seem that it would be difficult to take off the old one and put on the new one. but it was not there. ardent greetings to that fool who decided not to install a belt tensioner. he’s just not a good person, I would say it differently, but I don’t want to swear, I think whoever changed himself will understand what I mean.

so. This means he simply cut off the belt with a knife and began trying to pull on a new one, and yes, just pull it on. Like a chain on a bicycle, this is the principle of replacement without a tensioner. and I did everything I could, guiding it with a screwdriver, turning the wheel, and pushing the car. I looked on the Internet for all possible replacement methods, but nothing helped. Everything was to no avail and I just walked away without tightening my belt. He didn’t get into anything, he just started to tear

We replace the belt tensioner with our own hands

The procedure for replacing the alternator belt tensioner is not difficult to carry out yourself. The only thing you need to have is a high-quality tool for installing the tensioner. The Grant generator belt tensioner is changed in the following order:

— disconnect the contacts on the battery terminals;

— then we weaken the tension force of the roller and remove the generator belt;

— unscrew the bracket nuts and remove the bracket itself;

— install a new bracket with a roller installed on it;

— We install the generator belt and tension it.

In order to prevent breakdowns in the future, it is extremely important for a car enthusiast to follow only two rules. The first rule is that when replacing the belt, it is important to check that the crankshaft pulleys, alternator and tensioner pulley are in line, and according to the second rule, it is important not to allow the belt tension to be too high.