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Some owners, after purchasing a LADA car, notice malfunctions in the operation of the doors. For example, the back door doesn't open well. You can cope with the problem yourself by adjusting the locks and door geometry. The defect can also be corrected under warranty from an authorized dealer.
Malfunctions that owners of LADA cars (and other car brands) encounter when the door locks are not adjusted:
- the door does not open or close;
- the door closes/opens poorly (tight);
- large gaps between the door and the body (water gets into the cabin, rattling and whistling appear at speed).
Door adjustment on all LADA cars (XRAY, Vesta, Largus, Granta, Priora, Kalina Niva 4x4) is performed in the same way. There are no fundamental differences.
Why doesn't the driver's door open on the Lada Priora?
Currently, many car enthusiasts are asking the question: why doesn’t the driver’s door open (despite efforts) on a new or not so Priora? It is worth noting in this regard that all problems mainly arise from the fault of the central locking. The situation is aggravated by the fact that the owners simply do not find the necessary information. The main signs of a malfunction in the locking system installed by the manufacturer on Priora are as follows:
- the door does not close;
- does not open;
- unlocks on its own.
Moreover, car enthusiasts often complain that it is impossible to open the lock with a key, from a key fob or from the inside.
In reality, in about 90 cases out of a hundred, the culprit of the malfunction is the lock installed directly inside the driver's door.
Pneumatic central locking
Along with electric locks, there are also their pneumatic counterparts. Here the malfunctions and their causes are almost the same. If the doors do not close at all, then the compressor or control board is to blame.
If a separate door does not work, then check the circuit board directly on the door lock. Often there is a lack of tightness in the vacuum line, broken contacts in the wiring, and also a breakdown of the control unit.
How to adjust the front door lock on a Priora
If the front door begins to close poorly, you can try adjusting the lock. To do this you will need a hammer and an impact screwdriver with a torx t40 bit.
The first step is to loosen the 3 screws securing the clamp.- If the door closes tightly, the latch needs to be moved outward. If the door does not close tightly, you need to move the latch inward.
- If the door rises when closing, the latch must be adjusted vertically.
- After adjustment, tighten the 3 screws.
Adjustment video:
The doors on the Priora are difficult to open
Tell me what could it be? When you pull the handle, it opens very, very tightly, it feels like it’s closed, you also have to slam the door very hard to close, and if you slam it really hard, it seems to close, but when you pull the handle, it opens as if it’s not closed. Does the lock need to be adjusted, or do the door rods need to be changed?
Guys, save me, I've looked all over the forums, there's nothing useful. The problem is that the doors are very difficult to open, namely, you have to put a lot of force on the handle for the lock to open the door. They are Euro-style handles, sometimes you pull them with such force, it seems like you are about to rip it out of the door, you have to jerk it open. where to climb? what to lubricate? what to regulate?
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Take off the lock and spray it liberally, it helped me a lot
Alexander, no, on the contrary, it got worse. I removed all the locks and pulled out the springs to make them close more quietly, and after I sprayed them generously with water, they began to open tightly
VD has drying properties, you wash the lubricant out of there and that’s it, take it apart and lubricate it
WD-40 does not lubricate, but displaces the lubricant. Casting lubricant will help you)))
Maybe tighten the rods? adjust them + lubricate them with something
I installed new handles, they were a little tight, I unscrewed the rods three turns somewhere, and everything became easy, I lubricated them at the same time))
Nikita, it opens from the inside
Anton, my brother had the same problem with Euro pens on 14k. The rods were adjusted and everything was ok.
Nikita, thanks, I'll try it
Anton, maybe he can help
Anton, I had the same problem with the rear doors, on the rods that go to the lock itself there are plastic ends, so unscrew them a little and you will be happy, personally I unscrew them by 5 mm
How to adjust doors on a Priora video
How do Russian cars differ from many foreign-made cars? In order for our car to be able to be properly repaired in the future, modifications should be carried out immediately after purchasing it. AvtoVAZ still managed to create an ordinary comfortable car - the Priora, and this model could not avoid this fate. At the moment, we will talk about the doors, and specifically about their adjustment and minor modifications. Otherwise , you will have to watch how the gap between the door itself and the body begins to grow, how a big rumble is made when closing, etc.
Let's start work with the door . The whole point now is that their design is made very poorly, all the metal elements rattle. To completely get rid of these sounds, we will now have to completely remove the door , and also put standard rubber tubes on their levers.
At first glance, it seems that there is simply nothing to do here, but the effect is amazing, almost all sounds disappear at once. Now, when closing, only a pleasant muffled pop is heard. You need to look at the outside door handles that look too bad. They should be replaced with more beautiful handles. At the next stage, it is necessary to change the inner lining, and also place a special soundproofing material in the inner cavity, as well as a second seal.
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You can also install additional speakers. You should return to the locks again, they should be adjusted , otherwise they will close very poorly, and then they will even begin to dangle and creak. It is necessary to slightly loosen the tension of all fastening screws of the lock retainer.
It must be moved outward if the door closes very tightly. If we are talking about poor density, then the lock should be pushed inward. If you feel the effect of the car doors lifting while closing, then you can safely move the latch down. If the car has a hatchback or station wagon body, then the trunk door will also have to be adjusted. To do this, you need to find a bracket into which the lock tongue will snap.
The lock should be thoroughly lubricated with special silicone grease. If the lock bolts are tightened properly, but the lock still does not work correctly, then you need to tighten the rubber stops, but you should not tighten them too much, as the door will start to hang loose and always rattle while driving. There is an anti-slip pad under the door. We should check what condition it is in, if it is very thin or there is damage on it, then it needs to be replaced. As a result, unnecessary sounds in the cabin will completely disappear. If you replace doors , then you will have to accurately measure the distances on your body, since a simply purchased door from Priora may not suit you.
Lock repair
We figured out why the central locking does not close the door. Statistics show that half of the problems are related to wiring and electronics, and the second are related to mechanics.
As for repairs, domestic locks are very afraid of temperature changes and high humidity. The activators first jam, and then completely refuse to open/close the locks. Typically, such drives can be found on domestic cars. It is better to replace such activators with separate drives. But you can also disassemble, thoroughly clean and lubricate.
If the door does not open with the key fob
First of all, you should make sure that the button itself is working. The battery often runs out.
Further, if the indication goes off after using the key fob, then most likely the wires leading to the lock installed directly in the door have simply frayed.
This, in particular, is also indicated by non-working window regulators.
In such a situation, you will have to disassemble the door (that is, remove the trim from it) and check the integrity of the chains. It will also be necessary to inspect the fuses - they usually blow out from the slightest overload, and their damage leads to failure of the locking system.
Another common factor is a poorly charged battery, because it is from it that all systems installed on the car are powered. In cold weather, as you know, the battery discharges the most. Moreover, if the battery is disconnected for a while, then the immobilizer often starts to work incorrectly.
Sometimes mechanical problems can interfere with opening, but in this case the door cannot be unlocked with anything.
Soundproofing vases with your own hands
We all know that the sound insulation in our cars leaves much to be desired, so very often owners turn to car services to reduce the noise level inside the car.
Actually, what is sound insulation? Noise insulation is a set of measures whose purpose is to reduce noise penetrating into the car interior, which includes the sounds of passing cars, wind noise, the sound of a running engine, chassis, wheel noise, the sound of small stones on the bottom of the car and similar sounds. In the article, we will step by step look at how to make sound insulation for a VAZ 2114, Priora and Kalina with your own hands.
Soundproofing VAZ 2114
In a VAZ 2114 car, sound insulation is more than necessary, and there is no need to say that the treatment must be complete, that is, all parts need to be processed: trunk, hood, floor, ceiling and doors. Partial processing of the car will not give any results, so you should not be lazy and save money, otherwise you will end up throwing money down the drain.
In order to soundproof a VAZ 2114 car, you need the following materials:
- stroyizol SD 90;
- accent 15 LM KS;
- vibroplast Gold;
- agilin;
- Vizomat MP – vibration absorbing material;
- splen 3004.
You will also need various working tools: a tape measure, a ruler, a square, a set of screwdrivers, an awl, a mounting tool, a household hair dryer, scissors and a set of keys.
The work begins with clearing the interior of upholstery, panels and anything that might get in the way. In fact, you clean everything right down to the body. In order to suppress excess noise and vibration and increase the rigidity of the structure, it is necessary to completely treat the surface of the trunk floor with vibration-absorbing material Vizomat MP. This material also has good thermal insulation characteristics and allows you to keep the cabin cooler longer in the summer heat.
In order to glue Visomat MP you will need a household hair dryer; the material is heated to a soft and elastic state, after which it is adjusted to the curves of the body. This must be done before the material “stiffens” and no longer fits as tightly as it should. For a good fit, you will also need rolling rollers; you won’t be able to glue it with your own hands and the sound insulation will not be of very high quality. Do not forget that fastening elements, hatches, and various technological openings cannot be sealed, since access to them will be needed after soundproofing work.
How the Priora central locking works.
Let's try to figure out how the Priora central locking works. After the keys are activated by the immobilizer unit, the key codes are transmitted to the driver's door module, where they are stored. When the trained key comes into range of the module's antenna, when the doors are opened, the code is read. If the code matches, then when you turn the key and close or open the electrical contacts of the door lock, a signal is sent from the driver's door module via the CAN bus to the electrical package control controller to open or close the doors. In addition, the security alarm is activated or removed.
The Priora central locking works the same way when the immobilizer is inactive. In this case, the code from the key is not read, and the entire system works as described earlier.
Door locks can also be controlled remotely by pressing buttons on the key. In addition, there are two modes when unlocking doors. It can occur simultaneously on all doors or in stages. When you press the button once or turn the key, the driver's door opens. If you press the button again or turn the key within 5 seconds, the passenger doors will unlock. Switching between modes is done by simultaneously pressing the door lock and unlock button on the key with the ignition on. The transition is confirmed by one or two beeps from the buzzer when simultaneous opening and step opening are activated, respectively.
Device
The weakest point of the Priora locking system is the microswitch. The electrical package itself, used on the model in question, is a rather complex device. It is his responsibility to receive the owner’s command to unlock or lock the door. Having received a certain signal, it activates certain electrical networks that supply the drive. In this case, the electrical package can perceive orders in two ways at once:
In the first case, having sensed the order to close, the immobilizer turns off the alarm and energizes the electric drive of the lock, closing or, conversely, opening the contact groups of the microswitch.
Then the latter, all the time the lock is locked, monitors whether an order has been received to open the doors.
Why is everything arranged this way? Everything is simple, because the command in this situation can be received not only from the key fob, but also from the switch if the car owner used the key. This allows the immobilizer, when the security alarm is activated, after detecting a raised blocker, to immediately begin to act according to the alarm protocol.
So, the biggest problem of the Priora is water getting inside the door. As a result, the contact groups of the microswitch quickly oxidize and become overgrown with verdigris, similar to moss. The volume of the working surface increases significantly and the contacts stick together. In addition, the oxides have fairly good conductivity. As a result, the passing tension is perceived as an order to unlock or lock the doors.
Necessary tools and detailed instructions
To begin with, you should understand that the car is already locked and do not panic under any circumstances. After all, excessive fuss will not help matters. You need to make a choice about how to open the car - this determines the choice of tool that may be needed when performing various manipulations. How to open a Priora without a key? Easily! All you need to do is have a small hammer, several screwdrivers (flat and Phillips), several meters of strong wire, wooden wedges and adhesive tape on hand.
The Lada Priora car has basic security functions in its arsenal - central locking is part of the standard security system installed by the factory. Therefore, to open your own car you will need a wire that does not have a large cross-section in diameter, but has sufficient rigidity. At the end of this wire you need to make a small hook, and the wire itself should be from 60 to 90 centimeters long. This hook needs to be squeezed between the rubber seal of the side passenger or driver's window and the glass itself.
Please note that the hook should be facing towards the performer. Then you need to insert the wire into the space between the handle and the cylinder.
Next, you need to push the larva so that it rests against the rod. As soon as this happens, you need to pick up the dog as carefully as possible, and then just carefully lift it. If all of the above steps are performed correctly, the door should open.
The next method, which will give a detailed answer to the question “How can you open the Priora door without a key?” If the first method fails or there is an acute shortage of thin wire, it is time to use the next method. For this you will need wooden wedges and adhesive tape. The width of the wedges should be within 30-50 millimeters; before using them, it is advisable to wrap them with a thin rag.
Then the wedges should be carefully driven into the gap, which is located between the body and the door itself. In order to preserve the paintwork of the car, it is strongly recommended to cover the entire work area with adhesive tape in order to avoid accidental scratches or chips. After this, you can insert a wire with a large diameter into the resulting gap and use it as a shoulder in order to reach the central locking button or get to the handle that opens the car door.
The third method involves having a thin and long metal ruler. If you have it at hand, then just squeeze it into the gap between the rubber seal and the glass directly opposite the handle to open the side door. Using vertical movements up and down, as well as small lateral deviations, you need to find the desired lever, which, even with a slight mechanical impact on it, will open the car door.
The fourth method is the simplest of those presented, but also the most expensive. If you don't even have the few minutes it takes to do the above methods, you can use a hammer or heavy stone to break the window. Please note that you should break the side window for the sake of safe driving, because if you break the windshield, visibility will deteriorate, but also in order to save the family budget.
The rear doors of the Lada Grant do not open from the inside, what should I do?
Car: Lada Granta. Asked by: Maria Cherkashina. Question: The child was playing around, now I can’t open the back door.
Boys, save the girl! I can't open the back door at all.
Trying to open the back door
The child played around with the door and now it doesn’t open from the inside at all. And it opens from the outside. The right one does not open, but the left one does. What to do?
The rear doors do not open - the child lock is “activated”
An expert on Lada cars with many years of experience. I own a Lada Granta car, I collect cramps based on the Priora.
Sometimes I stay overnight in the garage. My wife is more jealous of cars than of women.
Protection against opening the rear door from the passenger compartment is available on every car. It's called child protection.
On the Lada Granta, in my opinion, this function is implemented better than on previous cars of the VAZ family. Then the child could actually accidentally pull the lamb in the door, but now, to activate it, you need to use a flat object, but more on that below.
Activating the child protection function
- There is a special plastic lever in the door body that must be turned to the right (clockwise) - then the door will not be able to open from the passenger compartment.
- To return everything back, you need to open the door from the street (external handle) and return the lever to its original position.
You can activate it using the ignition key, but it is better to use a screwdriver for this
Well, a detailed video of the process
Once again we try it on ourselves, or rather on the editorial car Lada Granta. Learn more about this feature in the video below.
Use this feature carefully! If your outside handle breaks, you can only open the door by removing the door trim. This is very difficult to do with the door closed.
Removing and replacing front doors on a Priora according to instructions
To remove the front door on a Priora and replace it, you must perform the following steps:
- Using an 8/10 socket wrench (depending on the car modification), unscrew the bolts securing the opening limiter. To avoid damaging the paintwork on the bolt heads, you should first cover them with masking tape.
- Next, you need to release the rubber protective cover from engagement with the car body, inside of which there is a wiring harness to the power window console and rear-view mirrors. To do this, pry off the cover using a flat-head screwdriver.
- Unscrew the two screws securing the plastic threshold. The photo below shows their locations on the threshold. You need to remove the plastic threshold in order to get to the place where the connection for the power supply wires is located.
- Under the soundproofing mat there is a chip that needs to be disconnected.
- Disconnect the chip from the terminal block by prying off the tab with a flat screwdriver and pulling the chip up.
- Now the disconnected bundle of wires must be inserted through the opening in the car body, having first removed the rubber plug.
- After this, you can begin to unscrew the two bolts that hold the hinges on the Priora.
- When unscrewing the bolts, you need to call an assistant who will hold the door. After all, it is quite heavy, and in order to eliminate the possibility of damage during dismantling, it is better not to risk it and turn to a neighbor for help.
This completes the process of removing the front door on the Priora. All that remains is to perform the necessary manipulations with it, and then install it back. If a door is replaced on a Priora, the installation process is performed in the reverse order of removal. You must first rearrange all the parts (glass, door lock, map, side mirror, etc.). You can clearly see how to remove the front door on a Priora in the video below.
Modification of door lock Grants
Procedure:
- Insert a stopper into the lock to prevent it from closing.
- File off, slightly rounding the sharp ends of the lock prong (without fanaticism).
How to remove the front door on a Priora
We proceed according to the following scheme:
- We disconnect the block of wires going to the window regulator.
- Disconnect the connection to the locking mechanism.
- There is a rubber corrugation at the front of the door. We pry it up with a flat screwdriver and pull it out of the grooves.
- Now you can remove the wiring harness from the doors. We take them aside.
- Let's move on to the stroke opening limiter mechanism. Depending on the year of manufacture of the car, it can be secured with 8 or 10 mm bolts. We select a suitable head and use a ratchet wrench to unscrew them from the car pillar.
- There are loops left. To do this, use a 13 mm socket to unscrew the bolts. The fastening is tightened tightly, so you will need a powerful wrench or a regular wrench.
- By freeing the hinges, the door can be removed from the body.
After this, you can begin to disassemble the internals: the lock, handles, window drive, etc. if necessary.
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