Fog lights are installed on a car to improve visibility in bad weather conditions.
Lada Vesta is equipped with PTF only in luxury configuration. All others have plastic plugs at the bottom of the buffer.
Installing PTF on Lada Vesta is not a cheap service. Self-installation will save some money, but requires care and experience on the part of the repairman. Incorrect installation of wiring and electrical circuits can lead to negative consequences and a short circuit.
The main steps when installing fog lights on a Lada Vesta
- Placing the machine on an inspection pit, roadside overpass, hydraulic lifting mechanism.
- Removing the terminal from the battery, since the work involves voltage, contacts, and relays.
- Unscrewing the top, middle, bottom row of fasteners and screws.
- Removing the sidewalls of the buffer from the grooves, removing the front part.
- Removal of plastic inserts, installation of fasteners for PTF.
- Laying the wiring from the left PTF to the fuse block.
- Installation of a mechanical button in the cabin, to the left of the steering column.
- Laying the cable from the button to the fuse box.
- Connection of limit switches according to the provided diagram.
- Install the buffer in the reverse order.
Lada Vesta Pluto › Logbook › Part 2. Installation of Wesem PTF in Vesta “Comfort”
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Well, I’ll continue my story about fog lights in Vesta Comfort. I’ll try to describe everything in order.
1) First of all, I removed the 5-button module from the car and brought it home. It is very easy to dismantle, even without special plastic keys for disassembling the interior. An old Gazprom plastic card helped me with this. I examined and unscrewed everything that could be unscrewed.
Next, I lifted each of the buttons and disconnected them from the body.
There are 2 more screws under them. We unscrew them and disconnect the latches. This is what the button block looks like disassembled.
We take the board from Igor and insert it into the case. The scarf is made of very high quality, everything fits like original. We install new pushers and insert the springs from the kit. We assemble in reverse order. Don’t forget to sharpen the stops on the desired button with a file that prevent pressing.
2) Install the PTF into the brackets. By the way, this is a different story. When I was preparing for installation, I read on the Internet that self-tapping screws with a press washer would be great for this task, but as it turned out, the diameter of the holes turned out to be larger than the diameter of the self-tapping screw. Arriving at the auto shop, they offered me a single self-tapping screw that fit perfectly (photo of the self-tapping screw in the first part).
3) Electrical diagram. I reviewed a bunch of options, reviews, descriptions, relay characteristics and concluded that I will not use a 4-pin relay, since the RZPTF can handle a load of up to 20A. By the way, I installed a 20 A fuse (I forgot to mark it on the diagram).
4) Preparation of the wiring began with taking dimensions. Since there are 3 control wires going into the interior of the car (a button, a button indication and an enabling wire), I took them with a reserve (3 meters each, and the remaining meter was useful for connecting to the TsBKE). The wire cross-section is 0.75 mm, it could be smaller, but I couldn’t find it here. I measured the wires for connecting the PTF (1.5 mm) locally. By the way, the screws with the ground are located next to the fog lights.
Well, in general, having measured out all the wiring and laid it out on the floor, I took up the corrugation, electrical tape, modelin and began making wiring harnesses.
Well, then a soldering iron, rosin solder and tips. Unfortunately there are no photos of the harnesses, as I went to try them on and installed them haha.
I decided to run the wiring harness under the top bar of the radiator frame (under the hood latch). The wiring went perfectly and discreetly. By the way, the mass screws are nearby, and there are plenty of possibilities to secure it. I secured the tourniquet with black ties.
The control wire harness was routed from the engine compartment into the passenger compartment through the seal in the engine shield (through a puncture). I removed the enabling wire from this harness and connected it to the size wire on the car. I brought the remaining wires to the block with buttons and connected them through the pins from the kit that Igor sent.
Preparing seats and attaching headlights
With the exception of the luxury version, plastic plugs are installed in place of the PTF. Using a special 76 mm bit, we drill holes.
This stage can be avoided if you purchase ready-made factory-made plastic inserts with cutouts in advance. The brackets are installed using three self-tapping screws.
Buy a mechanical button for the car interior in any shape you like. The standard installation location is to the left of the steering column, closer to the trunk lid opening button.
Beginning the installation of the lighting kit
We remove the front bumper, carefully cut out holes with a diameter of 76 millimeters in the places where the plugs are located.
Requires a 76 mm cutter
A sharp knife with a harder blade or a metal crown of the appropriate size will come in handy. We insert the headlights into the holes, securing them to the right and left brackets using self-tapping screws 15–20 millimeters long.
We install a switch button inside the car; you can use a standard VAZ one from LADA 2114, placing it next to the vertical adjustment wheel for the optics. You can draw a conclusion to the standard switch from Vesta, which will be without fixation, located just below the audio system.
Installation of PTF lamp wiring.
We lead the wiring from the headlights through a metal corrugated box to the hole located in the area where the pedals are located. From there we draw output to the button.
About the standard set of fog lights
If you decide to convert the Lada Vesta with your own hands without visiting a service station, then additionally buy:
Name / catalog article | Price, rub.) |
PTF 261500097 | From 3000 (kt) |
—/— FCR220029 | —/— |
Blocks with wires for PTF 8450006983 | From 13000 |
Left bracket 8450006277 | From 260 |
Bracket right 8450006276 | —/— |
Steering column switches 8450006924 | From 6500 |
Electronics unit 231A08052R | From 3300 |
Wiring 8450030715 | From 20000 |
*price indicated as of 02/02/2019.
The total cost, excluding payment for services at a service station, is 45–50 thousand rubles. Installation of fog lights in a workshop - from 60,000 rubles.
One of the problems that the master faces during the installation of the basic version of the Lada Vesta is the new electrical equipment circuit. It is different from Lada Granta, Kalina, Priora.
Standard control of fog lights is implemented via the steering wheel paddle. The activation signal does not go directly to the fog lights, but to the EMM control module. After which the unit redirects the signal via the CAN bus. Installing headlights according to the described scheme is complex, costly, and not always understandable for an inexperienced driver. An alternative and simpler option is to install fog lights using a separate circuit using a relay.
How to choose the right headlights and materials for them?
The highest quality indicator is the original set of headlights produced by the Valeo brand (code: FCR220029). These devices cost 3 thousand rubles. for a couple.
If this price scares off the buyer, then you can choose products from Dlaa, and they are almost half the price. If you want to install xenon versions of PTF, you should study in detail the experience of the owners and material on this issue.
Important! You should not be inclined to buy cheap options, since their quality is far from ideal, and cases of melting are not so rare.
The next important elements of the kit are the mounting brackets. For two products you will have to pay about 700 rubles.
Now let's look at the other products included in the kit:
- button to turn the headlights on or off;
- relay;
- cables with a plastic corrugated sheath and connectors for switching;
- fuse (current – 16 A).
For the indicated set, sellers will “ask” about 600 rubles.
You should also additionally purchase a lining for the PTF. For 2 pcs. the owner will have to part with 800 rubles.
In general, purchasing a PTF set will require a budget of at least 5 thousand rubles. All of these products are available in the warehouses of most online stores, which makes the purchase a quick process.
Wiring diagram
Preparatory stage:
- set of automotive tools, screwdrivers;
- rags, plastic spatula;
- fog lights, wiring kit, limit switches, 4-pin relay, insulation;
- elastic clamps – ties for electrical wiring;
- 16 A fuse for replacement in the fuse box;
- plastic corrugation of at least 5.0 meters.
Sequence of actions for connecting Lada Vesta fog lights:
- We install the car within the perimeter of the repair area, provide safety measures, and secure the rear row of wheels with wheel chocks.
- We gradually unscrew the top, middle, bottom row of screws.
- We remove the side clamps from the grooves.
- We remove the front bumper assembly and fix it on a workbench for ease of work.
- Using a crown (diameter 76 mm), we drill the left and right holes for the PTF. If you purchased ready-made brackets, then install them and secure them with three self-tapping screws.
- We lay the wiring under the plastic buffer amplifier and clamp it with clamps. Screw the buffer into place.
- We lay the cable to the fuse block.
- We install a mechanical button in the interior. The location is determined at personal discretion. We bring the limit switches to the fuse and relay block.
- We take the load power from a 12 V battery. We connect the control “plus” from the side lights or the cigarette lighter. We install the relay in the cabin under the dashboard above the pedal complex.
- As an alternative option, a steering column switch from Renault Duster with a fixed engagement is installed (article 8201167981).
With this scheme, the fog lights are activated when the headlights and low beam are turned on.
There is a third activation method: using a pulse relay, using the steering column switch, which are equipped with the Standard and Comfort versions. Installation work is carried out exclusively in the cabin, outside the engine compartment.
How to install fog lights on Vesta with your own hands
Replacement or initial installation of PTF on Vesta should be carried out in specialized workshops, but if it is not possible to go there, then you can do the work yourself:
- Remove the button cover on the central panel above the climate control and dismantle the board.
- Replace the board with a four-button one and install all the buttons in place, including the new one for controlling the fog lights
- Remove the bumper by unscrewing 2 screws on the fender liners, 4 screws near the wings and the same number in front of the protection below.
- Next, unscrew the 2 screws numbered and 5 under the hood, but leave one to hold the bumper.
- By removing the clips under the headlights and disconnecting the ambient temperature sensor, you can unscrew the last screw of the bumper and remove it completely.
- In place of the plugs, install the cladding assembly.
- Attach the brackets to the press washers, and the headlights themselves to the screws, but the bottom one should be shorter so as not to damage the frame.
- First install the bumper and, using a set of radio components and electrics, connect the wiring according to the formula.
- Install a square-shaped relay, pulse if desired, into the fuse block, making a tap from fuse f10.
- Finally install the bumper.
When performing these operations, inexperienced car enthusiasts may encounter a number of problems.
Review of Manufacturer Prices
Name / catalog article | Price, rub.) |
FranceCarFCR220029 | From 1500 |
Autostol63261500097R | From 2300 |
Valeo 47401 | From 4300 |
Valeo 02539 | From 3300 |
Bracket for fog lamp 657845163 | From 250 |
Facings - frames | From 1000 |
DLAA | From 1300 |
Tune-auto (body) | From 890 |
Wesem | From 2000 |
LED bulbs in fog lights | —/— |
Valeo | From 4000 |
Lens | From 5000 |
Rear fog lamp Lada Vesta 2191-3757010-20, size 223 * 12 mm | From 650 |
*prices are as of 02/02/2019.
↑ Removing the bumper
Before installing brand new fog lights on the Lada Vesta as standard, you will have to dismantle the bumper. Removing the bumper on the Lada Vesta does not seem difficult; it is easy to do, observing caution and the recommendations given. Perhaps it will be even easier than dismantling the hood, replacing mudguards, towbars and front body kits.
The whole process looks like this: a carefully removed bumper is marked in the places where the fog lights are installed. To install plastic fog lights in a Lada Vesta, you will have to cut the windows to fit the optics; other elements of the front unit do not need to be modified.
Recommendations for selection
When purchasing, check the catalog numbers with the actual data specified in the instruction manual. Get advice from service center specialists regarding the compatibility of the PTF with your car model.
Check the presence of the barcode, date, batch number, and integrity of the packaging. Ask managers to provide you with quality certificates for products.
Conclusion
Installing fog lights on a Lada Vesta with your own hands is not difficult. Difficulties most often arise when connecting the electrical component rather than installation.
Before connecting the limit switches, be sure to disconnect the terminals from the battery to prevent a short circuit in case of incorrect connection.
Causes of PTF failure
Fog lights are installed if they were not included in the factory version or if replacement is necessary. The lights are connected to the network separately from the main optics. In the event of a malfunction of the fog lights, the following manipulations must be carried out:
- The first step is to check the fuse of the part itself. Having taken it out of the special niche, examine the element for burnt or broken wires. If necessary, we change it.
- In most cases, the wire system breaks. An ammeter helps here, which will show the absence of voltage.
- If the main optics do not work together with the PTF, the problem becomes serious, starting from the seated battery and reaching the connection of the headlight wiring.
- If one of the foglights is ineffective, the cause must be looked for in it itself.
Reviews are positive and negative
№ | Positive |
1. | Gennady , 32 years old, St. Petersburg: I bought the basic version of Vesta, I installed the PTF myself with a friend. There is nothing difficult about it, we did it in half an hour in total. |
2. | Kirill , 29 years old, Moscow: I traveled for two years without fog lights, it was very difficult in bad weather. I installed it at a service station, it was expensive, but the cost is worth it. |
3. | Vasily , 41 years old, Volgograd: bought the car second-hand, the previous owner installed a PTF. They illuminate well, cover the roadside, and visibility is good. |
4. | Dmitry , 45 years old, Samara: after a year of using Vesta, I realized that it wouldn’t work without additional lighting. I installed it myself and finished it in 20 minutes. |
5. | Alexander , 42 years old, Saratov: I bought Vesta in its basic configuration a year and a half ago. The car is good, but installing additional accessories is expensive. In particular, the fog lights cost me more than 45,000 rubles. |
6. | Ivan , 39 years old, Uralsk: my positive review of the PTF Autostol63261500097R, which I bought at a local store. Good price-quality ratio, warranty from the manufacturer. |
7. | Vyacheslav , 50 years old, Krasnodar: I don’t use the car very often, but I realized that I can’t do without additional headlights. Autumn time, often foggy, visibility is limited. I bought FranceCarFCR220029, my recommendations. |
8. | Alexey , 32 years old, Sevastopol: I bought a Lada Vesta in the basic version and decided to install fog lights. As it turned out, there was nothing complicated, there was more uncertainty. |
Negative | |
9. | Vladimir , 32 years old, Moscow: I bought a car in a luxury configuration with PTF. I am dissatisfied with the quality of lighting, I plan to install Valeo 47401. In thick fog, visibility is still limited, despite the low landing. |
10. | Sergey , 33 years old, Samara: I drove for six months on factory fog lights, the quality is not very good. If possible, I will replace it with foreign analogues. |
11. | Kirill , 38 years old, St. Petersburg: garage mates recommended installing Autostol63261500097R instead of factory headlights. The cost of Autostol is one and a half thousand more expensive than the factory analogue, but the quality is obvious. |
12. | Valentin , 42 years old, Rostov-on-Don: I drove Vesta for six months, the car is good. There are not enough fog lights, weather conditions have worsened, visibility has decreased. I have selected several options: Valeo 47401, Autostol63 261500097R, I will choose and consult with specialists. |
Video - Installing fog lights | Video - Installation without intervention in the ECU |
Let's sum it up
Do-it-yourself installation of such an element in a car as PTF in LADA Vesta allows you to save a lot of money (more than tens of thousands). Auxiliary materials and devices for installing fog lights will require the owner to part with 5-6 thousand rubles. The procedure will take several hours to complete, but now the car will not only look good, but will also provide improved visibility in bad weather and at night.
A fog lamp (FFL) is a necessary part of the external image of a car. More importantly, such lights should illuminate the road space for the driver even in heavy rain and snowstorms. The part must dissipate a white or light yellow tone, which forms a horizontal beam spreading over the route. Their design is such that they do not affect the upper layers of fog, and, therefore, improve visibility. In the event of a breakdown and the desire to repair the lights on their own, the owner will need a kit for connecting the PTF to Vesta with wires, relays and special buttons. This also includes the bracket.
Most of the latest products from AvtoVAZ have holes and fasteners for installing PTFs, but the plant itself practically does not install them. There have been numerous complaints about fog lights from the manufacturer. Car owners note that the lighting from them is very weak. Hence the rational solution: it is better to buy high-quality PTFs for Vesta and install them yourself.
Benefits of fog lights
These headlights got their name because they are able to provide visibility in foggy conditions. This natural phenomenon minimizes visibility and can easily lead to an accident. It is also difficult for the driver to do without fog lights in rain, snow or blizzard conditions.
The design of such lighting devices as dimensions, low and high beams does not allow leveling the effect of fog. This fact remains evident even when installing the most powerful types of lamps (LED, xenon). The action of the above light devices does not help due to the fact that the rays collide with microscopic drops of H2O in the form of steam or snowflakes, and are reflected or scattered from this. As a result, a translucent veil is formed and significantly impairs visibility. In addition, a dazzling effect is created. Fog lights have trump cards and advantages over main lighting. After all, PTFs are located almost at ground level. But the fog condensate does not reach this level. Therefore, we get the effect that the headlights are directing light under a veil of fog. In addition, the upper beam received from the PTF light has a clear boundary horizontal level and does not allow reflection at all from drops of fog that fall into the driver’s field of vision.
Another advantage of fog lights: they have a wide lighting spectrum. Due to this, the side of the road remains illuminated even during fog, which makes driving on roads with sharp turns much easier. Also, these lighting devices allow drivers of oncoming vehicles to see the dimensions of the car during bad weather. The color of the flashlight does not affect the quality of dispersion, because during fog all colors from the spectrum are scattered similarly. Because of this, the fog appears white or gray in sunlight.
Due to the above advantages, we can conclude that the presence of fog lights is practically necessary for every car. Two main advantages from installing this lighting equipment:
- improving driving safety;
- exterior decoration.
The driver drives calmer and more confident, knowing that in case of bad weather visibility will not be limited. PTFs also help with night driving. They can be used as an additional lighting device. And the fact that fog lights decorate the exterior of a car is especially relevant in the case of the Lada Vesta. After all, with them the design of the sedan is solid and complete.
Most Vesta consumers, when purchasing a non-top version, tend to equip the car with foglights.